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Pope Says Sundays for God, Not Sports

Fri Mar 26, 8:37 AM ET

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VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope John Paul (news - web sites) on Friday said Sunday should be a day for God, not for secular diversions like entertainment and sports.

"When Sunday loses its fundamental meaning and becomes subordinate to a secular concept of 'weekend' dominated by such things as entertainment and sport, people stay locked within a horizon so narrow that they can no longer see the heavens," the pontiff said in a speech to Australian bishops.

John Paul criticized the "culture of the 'here and now,'" urging Church leaders to "lead men and women from the shadows of moral confusion and ambiguous thinking."

The 83-year-old pope also encouraged Christians, especially young people, to remain faithful to Sunday Mass, saying the secular culture was undermining family life.

Date: 2004-03-26 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightxade.livejournal.com
Oh come now. I'm sure a lot of the footballers pray before the game, at least.

Date: 2004-03-26 10:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biogeekgrrl.livejournal.com
And I'm certain the coaches are calling out to Jesus at some point during the game.

Date: 2004-03-26 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightxade.livejournal.com
As are all the people who bet their meager life savings on 2 point spreads.

God is a part of everything, Mr. Pope. Let us worship in our own way. You have wine and wafers? We have beer and nachos. S'all good.

Date: 2004-03-26 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biogeekgrrl.livejournal.com
Brilliant. I must quote you on that.

Date: 2004-03-26 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightxade.livejournal.com
Sure thing. Perhaps it's something we should add to the LJ Elite itinerary. And we'll hold it on Sunday at 11:45pm, so that by the time the Pope gets around to bitching at us about our sacrilege, it'll already be Monday and we can just laugh at him. Then, since he's old and sick, he'd probably be really tired, and we'd invite him to relax for a bit with us. And then slowly turn him to our side.

Hm. That sounds like a mission, to me. Can we get an acronym?

Date: 2004-03-26 10:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woe2you.livejournal.com
How about "Papal Invitation and Slow Subordination to Happy Ecumenical Alcohol Drinking"?

Date: 2004-03-26 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightxade.livejournal.com
I don't think [livejournal.com profile] biogeekgrrl will appreciate you moving in on her newly aquired position within the elite. Stick to your own tasks please. Oh and BTW, can you please go check on the office full of horny alien chicks.

Date: 2004-03-26 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biogeekgrrl.livejournal.com
We won't hear from him for weeks. Heh.

Date: 2004-03-26 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woe2you.livejournal.com
Good to know you'll miss me. Actually, it appears [livejournal.com profile] kitsune76 has got to the key first (damn her) so I'm just going to have to do what I always do when the women run out on me - drink. And since there's 12 of them this time I'll have to drink with the Pope cos, y'know, I think "all of them" is worse than "12 of them", and I like good, dedicated drinking companions.

Date: 2004-03-26 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sionnain.livejournal.com
Hey, I filled out the LJ Elite poll.

*looks around excitedly*

Date: 2004-03-26 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biogeekgrrl.livejournal.com
Are you willing to take drinking, and generally debauch the Pope?

Date: 2004-03-26 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sionnain.livejournal.com
Always! *Swears with hand up*

Date: 2004-03-26 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightxade.livejournal.com
Welcome aboard!

Date: 2004-03-26 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biogeekgrrl.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] woe2you's acronym is spiffy, but as the FLICA for the LJ Elite, I propose the following:

Secret Ecumenical Mission to Influence Agents of ReligiositY. Or, SEMINARY.

Date: 2004-03-26 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woe2you.livejournal.com
Your Holiness,

We appreciate that you are more or less condemned to fill a largely ornamental role for a very morbid and depressing religion, but really dude, lighten up. Sunday has not lost its fundamental meaning; it's still arguably the first/last day of the week, depending if you're following the traditional or modern calendar. The traditional calendar, by the way, based the order of the week on a Saturday sabbath; which your church changed in order to underline its difference from Judaism. Also, the word "Sunday" (in English, at least) is derived from the OE sunnan daeg, or "day of the sun" - possibly linked to the worship of Lugh.

Also, this is an increasingly secular world, in which fewer people are interested in the mumbo-jumbo of your religion - which, let's face it, originated as an organised way of pleading with thunderstorms, same as any other - we simply don't want to do the voodoo that you do, and that's our choice and our call. We make our own decisions these days, which is if anything more morally responsible than hiding behind "because God says so" especially when he says so in a book compiled from many sources, each with their own agenda and edited and (mis)translated by many more.

Thank you for your concern though. Don't call us; we'll call you.

Yours Ecumenically,

Chris

Date: 2004-03-26 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biogeekgrrl.livejournal.com
Well said, Mr. W2Y.

Date: 2004-03-26 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joebanks.livejournal.com
I'm surprised he didn't go after shopping. That is what everyone does on Sunday. Sports are probably more family oriented then hitting the mall.

Date: 2004-03-26 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biogeekgrrl.livejournal.com
True! At least you can watch the game with your kids and talk about sportsmanship, as opposed to going to the mall and teaching them about material possessions.

Date: 2004-03-26 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightxade.livejournal.com
Yeah but what if we're out buying bibles, huh? Huh? What can he say then?

Date: 2004-03-26 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biogeekgrrl.livejournal.com
Nothing! Not a thing! Stick that in your funny hat, Mr. Pope!

At Bibles-Are-Us

Date: 2004-03-26 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joebanks.livejournal.com
The bible store is always the most crowded place at the mall on Sunday. But we have to ask, should the Bible store be open on Sunday?

Re: At Bibles-Are-Us

Date: 2004-03-26 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biogeekgrrl.livejournal.com
Where Would Mel Gibson's Tortured Jesus Shop?

Re: At Bibles-Are-Us

Date: 2004-03-26 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joebanks.livejournal.com
He would shop on Sunday. Because he was Jewish; I'm trying not to be ignorant here, wouldn't Saturday be his day off?

Re: At Bibles-Are-Us

Date: 2004-03-26 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightxade.livejournal.com
Yup. Some people do the Saturday thing, while others do Friday. The Pope is being a little bit close minded here.

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